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1  Software Discussions / Choosing Software/Other DAM Applications / Max number of images in Iview catalogue on: May 03, 2006, 03:45:47 PM
Hello.

It has been a few months since I checked out IView Media pro and then the max numbers of images in a catalogue made me decide not to use it and stick with IMatch.  I have about 150k of images (most in DNG form) and would like to have it in one catalogue like I can in IMatch.  IDimager I think can also have more images than IView and I got excelent support when evaluating it but speed and the interface was not good enough reson to abandon IMatch.  Later this year I will hopefully use Lightroom for my DAM workflow.

If one catalogue in Iview can handle my 150k+ images I think I will use that until Lightroom will be realesed for Windows.  Does anybody know about current catalogue restrictions in IView (splitting my images into multiple catalogues is not an option for me)?

Regards,
Johann
http://joephotos.net
2  DAM Stuff / DNG / Re: How to access DNG Preview jpg? on: April 28, 2006, 01:10:41 PM
Imatch 3.5 can display the jpg preview of the DNG.  I use it to show full size slideshows of the coverted files from Adobe Raw without problems.

Regards,
Johann
http://joephotos.net
3  General / General Discussion / Organizing derivatives into category sets or ...? on: February 03, 2006, 09:57:36 AM
Hello.

I'm starting to use the workflow suggested in The DAM Book with some minor changes suited for me.  There is one thing that I'm not 100% sure about after reading the book:  When I put derivatives into the Derivatives bucket system how to I organize them into Category Sets so they will not get lost?  I have put the DNG file in it's Category Sets and I'm not sure the JPG (or the master file) should be in the same sets because then I will get all versions when I filter by some set (in IView and IMatch).  I know that IDIMager supports versions but I have not tested that yet - do you suggest some workflow around those derivatives in IView?

Regards,
Johann
4  DAM Stuff / Scans and Camera Scans / Re: Quality of camera scans and cost on: January 30, 2006, 10:20:17 AM
Thanks Peter - I will investigate further.

Regards,
Johann
5  DAM Stuff / Scans and Camera Scans / Quality of camera scans and cost on: January 30, 2006, 12:14:30 AM
Hello.

I have about 1000 pictures in color negatives which I plan to scan in the next few months.  I have a Canon 5000 flatbed scanner with slide bed and I was thinking if you guys think that a scan with a Canon 5D will be anywhere as good as scanning the color negatives with the scanner?  Does anybody know what a copy attatchment for 5D and 100mm system costs (if available)?

Regards,
Johann
http://joephotos.net
6  Software Discussions / Choosing Software/Other DAM Applications / Re: DAM and RAW conversion software dilemma on: January 29, 2006, 01:54:48 PM
Hello Hert

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idImager is able to handle these volumes. I normally recommend you use SQL-Server as idImager's database system for these quantities. These amounts of data is too critical to store in a non "desktop database system".

I currently have SQL-Server 2005 setup on my computer and I have much experience in SQL-Server.  What steps are needed to let IDImager use a SQL-Server database?

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What is "Powerful"?

Regarding keywords and synonyms to be powerful in my opinion is the ability to have hierarchical structure of keywords in my thesaurus and when I enter a keyword for image all levels above would also be set into the picture along with synonyms for all keywords entered.  Ability to share thesaurus and more imprtantly synonyms would be very welcomed and import of tool like Controlled Vocabulary Keyword Catalog would be helpful.

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What is the difference with the previous point?

When I open a picture in Photoshop and save another version of it from photoshop I would like the DAM software to automaticly catalogue the new image as a another version of the image.  Photoshop Elements works like this but maby it is using some hidden Photoshop DDE functions not available to 3rd party developers.

Regards,
Johann
7  Software Discussions / Choosing Software/Other DAM Applications / Re: DAM and RAW conversion software dilemma on: January 28, 2006, 08:42:16 PM
Peter: Yes, I will take a look at the RapidFixer demos and see if that tool will speed up my workflow.
Rick: Yes, I'm using CS2 version but I don't like the UI and the workflow as in RSP.  RSP seems to also give me better end results.

Regards,
Johann
8  Software Discussions / Choosing Software/Other DAM Applications / Re: DAM and RAW conversion software dilemma on: January 28, 2006, 01:27:27 PM
Hello Peter.

Thanks for the reply.  Yes, I totally agree with you - I need to settle on a cataloguing software and decide between IMatch, IView and IDImager and make the switch to Lightroom in a year if the DAM functions of the software will become powerful enough.
RSP is an excellent software for processing large number of images and I get excellent results.  I have never really liked the Adobe Camera Raw software workflow wise, but Lightroom looks very promising.  If I will make the switch when it will become available for windows I might as well use Camera RAW in the meantime because I believe corrections made in that software will probably be read in Lightroom as well.

Thank you,
Johann
9  Software Discussions / Choosing Software/Other DAM Applications / Re: DAM and RAW conversion software dilemma on: January 27, 2006, 05:05:51 PM
Hello Hert.

Thanks for your reply - I will take a better look of IDImager and I would welcome a bata version download link from you.  I'm currently evaluating ACDSee Pro by the request of ACDSee and it will be interesting to see how your program will perform.

I have a few requirements for a DAM software which would be nice if IDImager features them now or in the near future (you don't have to answer them if you don't have time):

  • Have 100.000 - 200.000 images in a database without a noticeable performance penalty (IMatch handles that many files beautifully but not IVIew).
  • Many levels of category sets to organize the pictures (I think IDImager supports this as IMatch and IView).
  • Ability to define for each category set which IPTC/XMP field to write into the picture.  Example: I would like to have hierarchical structure for the location Continent>Country>City>Location and be able to write in individual fields from the Category sets.  I would also want to have the ability to write these information in Keywords along with all my category sets structure with automatic synonyms/thesaurus lookup to be added also in keywords
  • Powerful thesaurus and synonym editor which would help entering of keywords
  • View DNG preview picture embedded in the file
  • Ability to write IPTC/XMP into the DNG
  • Support natively labels/stars system used in Photoshop (I think IDImager does)
  • Fully customizable UI with user defined location for information and EXIF/XMP/IPTC data to be viewed and also histogram.
  • Have automatic stacks for pictures taken in a burst (2 seconds from each other).  Also let the user stack the pictures himself.  Highest rated (stars) picture should be on top and jpg in precedence over raw.
  • Version control.
  • Good export function for exporting all user defined data to XMP or some universal format

These are the requirements I think I need for a DAM program.  I have many times thought of writing software like this myself in .NET but I think that I will never have a time for that and I think my photography would suffer (and probably my relationship also).  Grin

Regards,
Johann Gudbjargarson
http://joephotos.net
10  Software Discussions / Choosing Software/Other DAM Applications / DAM and RAW conversion software dilemma on: January 27, 2006, 01:13:35 PM
Hello everybody.

I have been studying the DAM and RAW conversion software market for the last two years to organize and process my 80.000 images (and growing fast).  I’m have almost read the DAM book and that has changed my perspective a little bit but I’m still unsure what software to bet on.  I’m currently using IMatch and RSP (Pixmantec RawShooter Premium) to organize my picture but I have found out that these program don’t work that well together and I’m not 100% happy with the progress of IMatch.

RSP:  The problem with RawShooter is that it doesn’t support IPTC/XMP at all and I need to enter data into this fields in my workflow.  Also the DNG support isn’t very good – that is it doesn’t update the JPG preview of the image contained into the DNG.

IMatch:  The problem with IMatch is that it’s a one man project and in the last few months I have been insecure on putting all my efforts into that program.  Two weeks before Christmas Mario (the developer) stated that the new service pack would be available before Christmas but it hasn’t been published yet.  I have also been waiting for the next big version of the program for 1.5 years and I’m pretty sure it won’t be available in the next few months.  The program is good but I don’t see how a one man can keep up with big corporations in this rapidly growing and changing market.  The program is excellent for my needs (or will be when the service pack will be available) but in the long term I’m more interested in software like Adobe Lightroom.  I’m also not sure how/when IMatch will read the preview from the DNG files.  Mario has also said that the RSP buddy files (one file for each picture converted in RSP) stored in a subfolder would not be transferred with the picture when moved within IMatch.

As of these things I think the RSP/IMatch combination will not be successful for my workflow.

One of the requirements for my picture collection is the ability to have my images in virtual hieratical category sets (which IMatch is very good at actually) and all my pictures in one database (the DAM software must handle 100.000+ pictures easily).
IView Media Pro seems to be OK software but the limit of small databases to be fast enough to work with daily makes it a software I don’t want to use.
I have checked out IDImager and it seems OK, but I doubt it will work better with RSP than IMatch does.

I am therefore hoping that the Windows version of LightRoom will be out soon so I can start to get comfortable with it and I hope that Lightroom will have a strong cataloging features (I think I read somewhere that Adobe has said that it will not replace IView or Bridge which is bad in my opinion).  If Lightroom will have strong DAM features then all software to handle my RAW/JPG files would be under one hat in a impressive/powerful software with great UI and work seamlessly with Photoshop when needed.  Stacking and version control would also be welcomed with strong IPTC/XMP features to enter keywords easily and fast for the web and stock agencies.

I am in a limbo right now – I don’t know if I should wait to catalogue my growing collection of pictures or catalogue them with IMatch or IView.  Are anybody else in the same situation as me who can recommend some strategy?  Huh

Regards,
Johann Gudbjargarson
Iceland
http://joephotos.net
11  DAM Stuff / DNG / Re: Lens information in DNG file on: December 29, 2005, 03:33:52 PM
Yes, you are correct Paul about it not being version 3.5 - my mistake.
I think Mario (the maker of IMatch) has said that this service update will have XMP and better DNG support so it might be a litle bit more than a minor update.  First he said that it would be available before christmas and that has obviously been delayed but I'm hoping it will be available in the next few days.
12  DAM Stuff / DNG / Re: Lens information in DNG file on: December 29, 2005, 02:37:49 PM
Hello Peter.

When you mention the public beta then I remembered that I was using an older DNG converter (version 3.0 or 3.1) and I downloaded the public beta 3.3 two days ago and the problem was in the public beta.  I am not sure if the problem was also in the older version of the converter because I only checked this in the beta version.

Yes I have asked for this and they told me that they could not comment on future releases or planned features but the told me that they know about this DNG issue and are interested in implementing it.  So they don't mention any dates or confirm that this will be in the next version  Undecided

I'm glad that you checked out my website and thanks for kind words  Smiley

Thank you.
Johann
Iceland
http://joephotos.net
13  DAM Stuff / DNG / Re: Lens information in DNG file on: December 29, 2005, 01:58:38 PM
Hello.

Yes it is true that RSP does not embedd the preview in the DNG.
I created the DNG from the Adobe DNG converter standalone program.  Max aperture is visible in bridge for the CR2 file but not the DNG file created from that same CR2 file.

The reason I use RSP instead of Bridge/ACR raw is basicly that I like the workflow MUCH better - I am mutch quicker going through large number of pictures, selecting which I want to throw away and keep and making adjustments.  Also I like RSP controls for adjusting the picture much better than ACR and it gives me much better results IMHO.  I must admit that I'm having second thoughts about the issue but RSP is still ahead and I think I will keep on using it.  I also have gone many times back and forth with using IMatch and tried other programs but IView and others have not been up to the robust standards of IMatch.  Version 3.5 of IMatch is due in the next few days with better DNG and XMP support along with other improvements which are going to be interesting I think.

Regards,
Johann
http://joephotos.net
14  DAM Stuff / DNG / Re: Lens information in DNG file on: December 29, 2005, 01:11:52 PM
Hello Peter and thanks for the reply.

I have the same problem with RSP (RawShooter Premium) and Bridge/Photoshop.  When I view the CR2 file in these programs I get the lens info (mm and max aperture) but when I view the DNG both programs have no info about max aperture.  Photoshop has a exif field "Max aperture" and other with lens mm.  RSP has similar fields but when the dng is viewed this info is missing in both programs.
I downloaded the newest versions of the dng converter and camera raw 2 days ago so that is not the problem.

I am designing my workflow based on your guidelines in your book around IMatch and RSP (and maby Bridge) and I have one problem which I haven't found solution for (I think there is no solution to this).  RSP skips all IPTC info when creating TIFFS/JPG from the raw files - so my ideal workflow would be to write basic IPTC info into the CR2/DNG file and then all files created from it would contain that info but that is not possible with the current version of RSP.

Regards,
Johann
15  DAM Stuff / DNG / Lens information in DNG file on: December 28, 2005, 07:29:41 PM
Hello.

I have been experimenting with converting my Canon 20D .CR2 raw files to DNG and there seems to be some Canon specific EXIF information missing in the DNG which the CR2 contains.  Example of this is Lens Information (Max Aperture) which I think is very helpfull.  This makes me hesitate with converting my CR2 because I would like ALL information in the CR2 to go into the DNG.  Does anybody here have solution/thoughts about this?

Regards,
Johann
http://joephotos.net
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