The DAM Forum
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
September 23, 2014, 09:21:49 AM

Login with username, password and session length
Search:     Advanced search
28018 Posts in 5138 Topics by 2910 Members
Latest Member: kbroch
* Home Help Search Login Register
+  The DAM Forum
|-+  DAM Stuff
| |-+  Software Discussions
| | |-+  Separate Catalogs for RAW/DNG and JPEG - Workflow
« previous next »
Pages: [1] Print
Author Topic: Separate Catalogs for RAW/DNG and JPEG - Workflow  (Read 3531 times)
Reg33
Newbie
*
Posts: 9


View Profile Email
« on: July 15, 2010, 02:55:03 PM »

I shoot in RAW (and will now convert to DNG on import based on what I've learned around here).  And my wife shoots in JPEG.  I'd like to have a unified master catalog for all of our files -- for example -- I'd like to be able to tag the pictures she took on our vacation as well as the pictures I took on our vacation so that I can see all of our vacation files at the same time.  I saw on dpbestworkflow.org that in the directory structure there was a /JPEG_Originals folder in one of the suggested folder structures.   

Would the best practice be to keep her originals in the /JPEG_Originals folder, or would it be best to convert her JPEG's to DNG -- and then go along with the same workflow that I use when I go from my .CR2 to .DNG?  Should I somehow tag her files to mark that mine came from RAW to DNG and her's came from JPEG to DNG? Or does that not matter (other than the quality and control issues of course).

Clearly I will be working on some of her shots in photoshop, so I will need to account for derivatives made from her shots as well as mine, and I'd really like to be able to have one folder where we keep the yearly derivatives (as suggested on the site) instead of having a separate derivative folder for her jpegs.

And, yes, she will keep shooting in auto modes in .JPEG until I can convince her that I can do a better job with  the manual settings on the camera and RAW.   Grin

Logged
ScottBuckel
Full Member
***
Posts: 245


View Profile Email
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2010, 04:55:55 PM »

One way that seems like it would work to me is make a collection of the vacation photos that way you can see all of them at one time.  There are some other approaches that could work as well.

Scott
Logged

Scott Buckel
Monrovia, CA
Reg33
Newbie
*
Posts: 9


View Profile Email
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2010, 08:09:10 PM »

So then would you store the jpeg's in the same catalog as the DNGs?  And should I convert the jpeg's to DNG?
Thanks,
David
Logged
ScottBuckel
Full Member
***
Posts: 245


View Profile Email
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2010, 08:33:44 AM »

At this time I would not convert the jpegs to DNG as it just creates a much larger file to store.  My catalog in Ligthroom catalog has DNG, jpeg, tiff, and psd files in it.  With tools like John Beardsworth I can now keep all of the meta data constant and the same (if needed) between all of the related files.

Scott
Logged

Scott Buckel
Monrovia, CA
johnbeardy
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1813


View Profile WWW
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2010, 11:45:53 AM »

"With tools like John Beardsworth's Syncomatic". Sounds better? Wink

John
Logged
ScottBuckel
Full Member
***
Posts: 245


View Profile Email
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2010, 01:26:30 PM »

John -

Yes that sounds much better, maybe I should not answer forum questions while listening to a teleconference!

Scott
Logged

Scott Buckel
Monrovia, CA
peterkrogh
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 5682


View Profile Email
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2010, 08:11:19 PM »

Davind,
The DNGs and the JPEGs can all be in the same *catalog*, but you might want to put them in a different folder structure within the archive. This is because you may eventually want to treat the files differently over time (particularly if the DNG specification becomes more friendly to conversion of JPEG originals).

There's no huge harm in keeping everything in one unified directory structure, however.

Peter
Logged
Reg33
Newbie
*
Posts: 9


View Profile Email
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2010, 08:19:39 PM »

Once again thank you and I think I solved the problem (maybe this will help someone else with the same question):
Here's my folder structure:

My root pictures directory is:
/2008
/2009
/2010
/toProcess

And within each year (here it's 2010) I have:
/2010_01
/2010_02
...etc for each month
/2010_master
/2010_derivatives
    /2010_derivatives/print
    /2010_derivatives/web

I dump everything off my media card into the /toProcess directory, and then do my DNG conversion (for .cr2) and jpeg moving into the appropriate monthly directory -- so the monthly directories have DNG files well as the shots that were taken originally as JPEGs (I'm not converting the JPEGs to DNG just yet in my workflow).

Much of this is from what I read on dpbestflow so thank you also for that resource.

Best,
David




Logged
peterkrogh
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 5682


View Profile Email
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2010, 08:29:01 PM »

David,
HAve you tried Lightroom yet?
It would likely save you a lot of time in Photoshop.
Peter
Logged
Reg33
Newbie
*
Posts: 9


View Profile Email
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2010, 08:49:35 PM »

I played with the trial which I thought was good -- but I've really gotten particular about using soft proofing in photoshop.  The problem I foresee in lightroom is that if I spend time manipulating an image in LR (though most of my training is with photoshop), I'm going to have to redo my work when I go to PS because of the soft proof settings.  Currently, I'll do major revision on an image and then either save a master file and then go off to make soft-proof versions, or if I know I'm going right to print, I'll just do the whole thing in the appropriate print soft proof mode. I found that if I started editing without selecting the soft proof profile, that I did a lot of work and then had to redo much of it to make it match the soft proof settings.

How do people using LR ensure that their prints will come out with the correct colors if they are not soft proofing?

Thanks,
David
Logged
Pages: [1] Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.11 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!