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« on: December 05, 2005, 06:06:18 AM »

Downloaded IFC script and configured for desired name structure.
The bridge metadata for the first file shows the correct file creation date, but the IFC "after" filename displays 031231 as the date instead of the metadata displayed date, in this case 051124 ...
When the script is run, everything works great except all the renamed files have the wrong date.
No clue where 031231 is coming from.
Any suggestions?

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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2005, 06:23:09 AM »

Dr. Foto,
Are you talking about the metadata or the file name? If metadata, which field?  What happens if you purge the cache for that folder? 

What steps are you doing with IFC?  Rename, apply metadata, build cache? Backup?

Are you working from the card or from a folder of images?

What happens if you point Bridge at the folder of images BEFORE you run IFC?
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2005, 07:13:20 AM »

<Are you talking about the metadata or the file name?>
Creation date metadata for file(s) is correct as displayed in metadata area of bridge

<If metadata, which field?>
Creation Date

<What happens if you purge the cache for that folder?>
Thought I tried that and had no success.  Explain when you are suggesting I purge. 

<What steps are you doing with IFC?  Rename, apply metadata, build cache? Backup?>
Yes, yes, yes, yes

<Are you working from the card or from a folder of images?>
Folder

<What happens if you point Bridge at the folder of images BEFORE you run IFC?>
That is how I am doing it.
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2005, 08:14:15 AM »

I still don't get where the problem is. File name, or metadata?
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2005, 09:02:19 AM »

the renamed file name generated by the IFC script, which is supposed to contain the creation date extracted from the metadata (which is correct as viewed in bridge) contains an erroneous creation date

generated name:
MTA_031231_0004

correct desired rename:
MTA_051124_0004

Creation Date displayed in bridge:
11/24/05
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2005, 09:08:43 AM »

Are you setting it up according to the instructions in the book? (what specifically appears in the name field of the script?)

What kind of camera made the files?

Have you tried any alternate metadata fields to use to get the date from?

Peter
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2005, 08:59:34 PM »

I am sending you a screen shot to show the settings.
The script works fine if I just want the name created with todays date.
Problem is only with creation date, which is important if I am to adopt your maing convention and rrework my archive.
The problem exists with both cameras I have sampled files from, a D50 and a D2x.
I downloaded the latest camera raw plug in tonight, hoping that might make a difference, but it didn't.
Note in the screen shot that the metadata at far left shows the correct creation date,
but the renamed data in the dialog box far right deafults to the erroneous "03" date.

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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2005, 09:11:47 PM »

Try Modification date (instead of Creation Date) for your Nikons.  Let me know if that solves the problem.
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2005, 09:03:38 PM »

Yes and no.
Yes, using either Date (today) or Modification Date doesn result in accurate renaming.
The problem is the desirability of being able to use creation date as I rename old files.
Some will have modification dates years different than creation date.

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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2005, 09:34:29 PM »

It wasn't clear if Modification Date works for you (doesn?)

I would suggest that Import From Camera is useful the first time you look at files.  If you are going to rename at a later date (which I do not generally suggest, BTW), then I would suggest one of the other renaming tools, such as Bridge Rename, or iView Rename.
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2005, 06:02:00 PM »

Now I have to ask why you don't recommend renaming old files...
I have 4 years worth of work that need to be keyworded and I thought reworking (keywording and renaming) my archive WAS what you were recommending in your book.
Are you just advocating adopting your system from "today" forward?
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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2005, 09:16:28 PM »

No. I'm saying to use a different tool to do it. Use Batch Rename in Bridge, or use iView's rename tool.

IFC is for a certain workflow of new images brought into the computer.  If you really understand it, and you have special needs that cannot be fulfilled by Batch Rename, then it can also accomplish those.
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« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2005, 12:28:37 PM »

Still trying to understand the best usage of the IFC script...
Yesterday I shot with a D2x (in raw+jpg) and a Coolpix L1 (jpg only).
Brought all files into a common folder, where the native files names were different between cameras.
The idea was to then use IFC script to rename all the images using the recommended naming convention.
Only the D2x files were renamed.  The L1 images were left untouched, and in fact had to renamed "manually" in bridge with batch rename and sequential numbers since bridge won't extract just the actual file number from the original name.

It was my impression that this would have been the ideal setting in which to use the IFC script, and that I was using it in the intended fashion.  Any thoughts as to why the L1 files were ignored?

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« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2005, 09:55:52 AM »

Mark,
the L1 files were ignored because you had "rename as linked set" checked.  As I point out in the book, this will leave behind any JPEG files that don't have a RAW of the same name.

You REALLY need to be aware of this if you use this tool.  I was hoping that this would have been changed by now, but it does not look like Adobe will be putting a new version of the script together.

Peter
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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2006, 11:30:30 PM »

Did you know that you can change the MASTER and LINKED EXTENSIONS fields?

I have set
   RENAME AS LINKED SET on
   MASTER = "CRW, JPG"
   LINKED EXTENSIONS = "THM"

I can now execute the script and have all of my RAW and JPG files come across from my card.

The default has a number of files in the LINKED EXTENSIONS list that include a JPG.  If your camera uses a JPG as a sidecar without renaming to something (THM) like Canon does, you will need to make two passes or use another approach.

Dave Scott
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