rating in iview/bridge

[dheaton]

What's the trick to get bridge to recognize a file rated and labeled in iview?  Do I need to tell iview to do something or tell bridge to refresh or something?

David

[johnbeardy]

Though it does depend on whether iView can write to that file type, sync the metadata to the file with Action > Sync.

[dheaton]

thank you.  I tried that and it did work.  After a while bridge did recognize the iview change.  Do you know of a way to tell bridge to recognize changes faster or manually?

David

[danaltick]

The only way I know of is to purge the cache for that folder in Bridge.

Dan

[johnbeardy]

Well it's generally immediate because Bridge is looking at the "physical" file. Sometimes you just need to click on a neighbour and then back to the image you're interested inm or refresh the page.

[johnbeardy]

Dan, purging the cache is only if it gets corrupted (somehow).

[dheaton]

ok thank you for your help

[dheaton]

Is Iview supposed to recognize the image rotation?  In bridge my images are correct vut in iview they are laying on the side.  I have used action sync but it doesn't change the orentation.

David

[johnbeardy]

Yes, and normally it does. Check you have the latest version of QuickTime, which iView uses to render some image types. And maybe ask at iView's forum (check out the file formats area) where you're likly to find someone else with the same camera.

[rfreschner]

Is Iview supposed to recognize the image rotation?  In bridge my images are correct vut in iview they are laying on the side.  I have used action sync but it doesn't change the orentation.

I have a Support Request open with iView, as I'm having the same issue.  If my images are added to iView through folder update or automatic folder update, they do not rotate correctly.  If I add the images using import, they are rotated properly.  I'll post their reply once I get an answer from them.  They're currently looking at it and have been in touch with me.

[AlanDunne]

I will check this when I get home tonight, but I seem to recall from Bruce Fraser's book "Real World ACR" that rotating the image in Bridge only rotates the Bridge preview, not the image in the file. I believe a flag is set, however, and the next time the file is opened in Photoshop, it gets rotated.

Since IVMP does not see the Bridge preview, it would not see any manual rotation applied in Bridge. From David's question I could not tell if he was manually applying the rotation, or if this was auto rotation (based on orientation metadata).

Since I am not sure of my facts here, perhaps I shouldn't have posted this. I will confirm later tonight.

Cheers ... Alan

[dheaton]

I will check this when I get home tonight, but I seem to recall from Bruce Fraser's book "Real World ACR" that rotating the image in Bridge only rotates the Bridge preview, not the image in the file. I believe a flag is set, however, and the next time the file is opened in Photoshop, it gets rotated.

Since IVMP does not see the Bridge preview, it would not see any manual rotation applied in Bridge. From David's question I could not tell if he was manually applying the rotation, or if this was auto rotation (based on orientation metadata).

Since I am not sure of my facts here, perhaps I shouldn't have posted this. I will confirm later tonight.

Cheers ... Alan

Hi Alan
I am appling the rotation manually.  I didn't know there was another way.  Might be nice to know about the auto.
So if bridge has the rotation correctly, then I rotate the image in Iview will it rotate the image again in bridge messing it up?  Hmmm

David

[rfreschner]

Many cameras, such as my Canon 20D, record the image orientation and store it in the EXIF data.  Programs such as Bridge automatically rotate the image when it is opened. iView is supposed to also, but (at least in my case) it is only doing it on images I explicitly use the import command on.  If I use auto-update or update on the folder to bring images into iView, it's not rotating them - but it's supposed to.  That is why I opened the support request.

[AlanDunne]

I am experimenting with manual rotation in IVMP, Bridge, and Photoshop (PS). To keep things simple I am doing this on some test jpeg files. Here is what I see:

• Rotation applied in IVMP (Action>JPEG Rotate) is seen on both the thumb and image in IVMP, is seen on both the thumb and preview in Bridge, and seen in the image in PS
• Rotation applied in Bridge only (i.e. image not opened in PS) is not visible in IVMP (thumb, nor image)
• When the image is opened in PS, the Bridge rotation is visible. When the image file is saved, the rotation is seen in the IVMP image (although I sometime have to re-open the catalog, as if the image was cached). The IVMP thumb only sees the rotation when you re-build the thumbnail (Action>Rebuild Item)

Those are my observations on "round trip" image rotation, for jpeg. I have not tried DNG, TIFF, NEF, etc.

Regarding auto rotation, the way that works is the camera embeds an orientation into the EXIF. I am not sure if all digital cameras do this. For some models it might require menu setting. I am not sure about this. The browser or catalog s/w can look at this and adjust the rotation to compentate, normally if the image was taken with the camera in a portrait orientation.

I use the Import from Camera (IFC) script in Bridge for ingestion and my thumbnails and previews in bridge always have the correct orientation. When in later import into IVMP, I still have the correct orientation preserved.

Cheers ... Al

[rfreschner]

When in later import into IVMP, I still have the correct orientation preserved.

How do you import into IVMP?  Using the Import commanc?  Or, Update or Auto-update the folder?