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1  Software Discussions / Choosing Software/Other DAM Applications / Re: Photoshop Elements as a DAM application on: March 03, 2007, 10:29:41 PM
Having now spent a lot of time with Lightroom, it is clear to me that all of the complaints that I had about PSE5 with respect to it's handling of RAW files have been addressed in Lightroom.  My biggest issue with PSE has always been deficiencies in the organizer with respect to renaming filed, batch processing, and incompatibilities between it and Photoshop when handling RAW files.  While Lightroom might not be the same level of high powered DAM application that iView is, it is a big step up from Elements.

I wonder if Adobe will use Lightroom (in some reduced capacity form) to finally create a ubiquitous entry level photo processing application for both MAC and windows.  One would have to thing that the inability to run Organizer on the MAC was problematic for them.  Now they could produce PSE with an identical interface on both platforms.
2  Software Discussions / Choosing Software/Other DAM Applications / Re: Photoshop Elements as a DAM application on: December 29, 2006, 09:00:18 PM
Another issue people should be aware of is that edits made in ACR for PSCS2 which make use of features like straightening, cropping, curves, -- basically using any feature that is not supported by the PSE version of ACR -- are lost to the PSE organizer.  It will display a thumbnail for the RAW file but anything applied to it using a feature not supported by the PSE5 version of ACR will not show in the thumb.

As far as writing tags to RAW, it will show a dialog claiming that it is doing it, but it is not.

PSE has a really nice UI but they need to fix up RAW handling a bit.
3  Software Discussions / Lightroom / Re: Lightroom Library files -- HUGE!! on: November 07, 2006, 11:21:37 PM
Thanks for the replies.  It appears that there are two separate files, one is relatively small called Lightroom Library which (I guess) holds the metadata.  The other is much larger called Lightroom Previews.  In my case the Library is now around 140 MB and the previews directory is now 654 MB.  I wonder if there will be a way to select the resolution of the previews that are saved in the release version.  After working with iView and PSE (which generate library files much smaller that these), I was a bit surprised at the size of the files generated by Lightroom.
4  Software Discussions / Lightroom / Lightroom Library files -- HUGE!! on: October 29, 2006, 11:51:02 PM
Does anyone understand what Lightroom is sticking into its library files?  I have been using PSE5 as my cataloging SW (it has it's limitations but works well for what I do at present).  I have 8k photos in the catalogue that is about 30 MB in size.  Last evening, I pulled all of that into Lightroom and it built two files, one a library file with a size of 133 MB, the other a preview file with a size of a whopping 333 MB!!

I thought the idea of Lightroom was to conserve disk space by only recording the edits etc.  I am amazed at how large the library files are compared to other programs that do pretty much the same thing like PSE and iView.
5  Software Discussions / Lightroom / Anyone know what's under the hood in Lightroom? on: October 16, 2006, 10:49:29 PM
Just out of sheer technical curiosity, does anyone know what database technology Adobe has employed in Lightroom?  I seem to remember hearing that it was SQL based but I don't remember where I heard that.
6  Software Discussions / iView MediaPro / Re: iView Stability on: July 30, 2006, 02:28:38 PM
The machine that I was running this on is a 2.4 GHz, P4 with 2 GB of RAM and 80 GB HDD.  The issues that I have seen are quite repeatable so perhaps my use of the term "stability" is inappropriate.  I would put the things I mentioned more in the class of things, "it hurts when I do that" -- well then don’t do that.  i.e. I can work around them.

I have not anteed up the $200 for the program yet and my trial has run out -- so I am through fiddling for a bit.  I am trying a few of the other contenders but I have found nothing with a UI that I like as well as iView (except for PSE4, which I am currently using).  Most of my photos are JPEG with about 300 of the latest ones being DNG.
7  Software Discussions / iView MediaPro / Re: iView Stability on: July 27, 2006, 03:09:21 PM
I have come to the same conclusion that the correct way to do it is to write the PSE tags to the files, suck them into iView and then re-build the CAT by hand.  I had not thought about the risk of trusting another program to fiddle with the CAT -- Good point.  I do like PSE4 Organizer, it is not a bad DAM program for hobyists with a primarily JPEG workflow.  It lacks a decent re-name function, IPTC editing, and won't write to CR2 or DNG which is what drove me to look at other solutions.  I really do like the PSE Organizer interface interface though.
8  Software Discussions / iView MediaPro / iView Stability on: July 26, 2006, 01:21:27 PM
I have been experimenting with iView now for a few weeks (actually my trial is about to run out) and I have found a number of issues.  One thing is that the input from PSE script does not seem to work properly.  I have a PSE catalog of around 8000 images and iView took on the order of 26 hours to chew through that and when it did finally finish it didn't have it right (the catalog hierarchies were jumbled and keywords were not listed correctly or missed completely).  I have also noticed a few other things such as when I use the down arrow key to move down through the keywords, the program crashes when I get to the last one, this is very repeatable in my case.

I am running this on a PC and I am surprised to see as many little quirks as I have, since I don't see too much whining about bugs over here, I am wondering if the program is more stable on the MAC platform than the PC.  It does not appear that iView tested the latest release of the PC version very thoroughly before they put it out.

That being said, I do like the program.  It has the nicest UI of any I have tried (except for PSE4 which I also really like -- especially the ease with which tags can be applied) and most things do seem to work right.  I am just a bit surprised to see a program that costs $200 (definitely not shareware like some of the others) with major features that don't seem to run right.

Maybe their new relationship with MS will help in this regard.
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