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DAM Stuff / Naming Issues / Re: Folders structure
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on: July 22, 2010, 05:06:26 AM
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Ok, so you have a pure data-based structure without any kind of information. I think I'll create a folder per day, and more folders per day in case of different shoots, with date and a brief description.
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DAM Stuff / Keywords and Controlled Vocabulary / Keywording HDR and Pano images
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on: July 18, 2010, 11:24:19 AM
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Hi everyone, on the dam book Peter shows how he labels pano and HDR sequences using his default label set. I don't understand if he also adds the keywords "HDR" and "pano" (or "panorama") to these images or if he adds this keywords only on the stitched or tone mapped photos.
Thank you
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DAM Stuff / Naming Issues / Re: File Naming Issue
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on: July 16, 2010, 04:02:30 AM
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Hi Scott, I think there are cases in which a sequence is more preferable rather than use the original file number suffix. And I think time lapse photography is one of that. You can simply create a file renaming preset dedicated to time lapse photography, with Buckel_date_[5-digits sequence] structure.
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DAM Stuff / Naming Issues / Re: Folders structure
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on: July 16, 2010, 03:52:50 AM
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Mattia -
The waterfall project files are in many different buckets for archive reasons. What I do to find the images I use Lightroom collections and within the collection they are organized by date.
Scott
Scott, can you show me how you called your waterfall project folders? I learnt the theory but I'm in search of practical examples..thank you Mattia-
Re "short dates": I do a pretty simple thing to accomodate the Windows handling of 20100329 versus 201007:
Just "pad" the YYYMM date with dummy DD day information:
201007 becomes 201007xx, or 20100700, or 20100799
Now the formerly "short" date folders will line up with "long" (specific day) folders. You can fiddle with the DD being 'xx', '00', or '99' to exactly position the folder.
(This also works for files: I have many non-DAM correspondence files that start with date, and sometimes I have only a YYMM date. I pad this short date, and then the files line up properly in chronological order.
Re Buckets, or Folders (whatever size): As I mentioned, you can also do the technique of having a Numeric (or Alpha) beginning of the folder name, followed by date information. As long as you (again) pad the Numeric prefix with leading zeroes to keep the prefix length matched up, you can use the Numeric prefix to order your folders, and use the suffix for any date info:
Folder001_July2007 Folder002_2010_ski_trip Folder003_your_suffix_here
--Bill
Thank you Bill, I already thought and tried padding dates with "xx" but it doesn't work. "00" works and I'll think on it. It works pretty well in case of a project within a month but there are (not so) limit cases that this pad is no longer suitable. An n-months project become something like "20100000" even if it starts on 20100529 and ends on 20100603. Bill and Scott, what do you think about make one folder per day? Even if the subject is the same, even if this folders are stored into the same bucket? In this way there are many folders, but I keep a cronological order and I can organize well projects and shoot within Lr.
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DAM Stuff / Naming Issues / Re: Folders structure
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on: July 13, 2010, 09:52:57 AM
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Yes Bill, it helps.
About buckets: I'm still thinking on it. I'm just an amateur, and I don't have an high volume of shots, about 3000 shots per year. And I don't have the necessary time to organize all the photos so, I can't archive photos because I have an underdeveloped work to do. Furthermore, I think DVD size buckets are now inadequate due to the size of raw files and the the size of the folders. And BR size buckets are - for me - inadequate too, due to its cost and my low volume of shots.
So, until now, I store photos in HDs, with one online backup and an offline backup, without archive them.
As I said, I want to keep a chronological order of my folders and, without buckets, the only way is to name folders starting with dates. For n-day shots I thought about something like 201007 (July 2010), but Windows name sorting put the folder before any folder with a complete date (i.e. 20100329).
If any of you have ideas keep in mind my requisites and generally my case, I appreciate. Otherwise I think I have to change something starting from considering buckets and name differently folders.
Scott: talking about the water fall and the mountain park you photographed for about two years, how do you organized folders and subfolders? And what if photos of the same subject "fall" into different buckets?
Even if I totally adopt Peter's way I'd still have some doubts, because the scenarios described in my first post, are not explained in the book.
Thanks for your advises.
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DAM Stuff / Naming Issues / Re: Folders structure
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on: July 12, 2010, 01:31:23 PM
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Thanks for the answer Scott. As you can see I updated my nickname..
Scott, I use to use keywords, metadata fields, collections and smart collections. I thiink I've reached a good workflow, thanks to Peter Krogh's The DAM Book and many other readings.
I carefully read the chapter about naming folders and files and I see that Peter names folder with some mnemonic name, without dates. But Peter doesn't mention if he structure this folders with subfolders.
Even if I can organize my different scenarios with keywords and collections, I have to store the photos on disk too, so: how? Without dates the job is quite easy, but I would keep dates while naming folders. They helps me to mantain a timeline, searching photos outside Lr.
Scott, how do you organize folders inside you RAW_XXX folders?
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DAM Stuff / Naming Issues / Folders structure
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on: July 09, 2010, 12:24:48 AM
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Hi everyone, I post here a mail I wrote to Peter few days ago: Hi Peter, I'm Mattia, from Italy. First of all, thanks for the help "The DAM Book" gave to me setting up my DAM. That book is the holy bible for every digital photographer! I write to you because I would like to explain to you my folder structure scenario.
I chose to not make buckets (but I'm still thinking on it), but I adopted your folder structure with a Raw_Archive folder, a Working folder, etc.
My doubts regard the lower level, the name to assign to the folders containing photos.
For a 1 day shoot I call the folder something like that: 20100629 Diane Photoshoot.
But I defined three others type of shoot in my scenario:
1. n-day continuative shoot (e.g. a travel, 9 day in Japan) 2. n-day not continuative shoot (e.g. home renovation, photos of the work in progress, not every day) 3. n-day recurrent shoot (e.g. photos of my home, or of my pet)
Currently, for case 1 I create one folder, with the starting date of the shoot (Japan from 20100319 to 20100329, I called the folder 20100319 Japan). For the case 2 I do not have ideas and for case 3, I create one folder for day of shoot. But I'm not satisfied..
I have some ideas and options, but I would like to have some advise from you. What would you do if you'd be me?
Two clarification: this is only about the folder structure, I manage the organization of the photos in Lightroom. The date for me is very important, at least as the subject. Any ideas? Thanks
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