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1  DAM Stuff / Backup Strategies and Tools / Re: DVD-buckets and file size difference between operating systems on: February 06, 2012, 09:34:00 AM
Hi Drew,

Yes this does help. It was like shooting in the dark when burning DVDs with Snow Leopard.

Tiger OS used to give a message before burning, that a DVD of XX.X GB size was needed to burn the data. Snow Leopard does not give any DVD size information before burning. Have no idea how Lion handles this.

Just "one more thing", isn't it?

Thanks for your comment!

Dadre
2  DAM Stuff / Backup Strategies and Tools / Re: DVD-buckets and file size difference between operating systems on: February 03, 2012, 09:32:17 AM
Hi Mark,

Thank you for your timely answer. And thank you for the tip about John's "Size and Count". I'd like to give that a try.
Yes the change in bit count is a pain, but then it's good to have a better idea of drive capacity.

Thanks again. I appreciate your consideration!

Dadre Traughber
3  DAM Stuff / Backup Strategies and Tools / DVD-buckets and file size difference between operating systems on: January 29, 2012, 09:56:28 AM
Using Apple Tiger and Leopard operating systems, I have been careful to keep data in buckets (for backup) at, or below 4.3 GB as per Peter's recommendation.

When I installed Snow Leopard (upgraded from Tiger) my Mac Pro would not recognize my archive drives, both internal and externals. All drives had initially been erased by writing zeros, then formatted to HFS Journal extended so the formatting was the same. Therefore I had to rebuild the archive on new drives by using buckets on DVDs. I noticed that the file size shown in "Get Info" is now different for these buckets, and the size can run well over 4.3 GB. For example, a 4.3 GB dvd might now show as 4.6 GB or more.

Does anyone know the reason for difference in file size between operating systems? Should we continue to use a 4.3 GB size limit per dvd, no matter what the bucket size might show later?

This is rather disconcerting. I don't relish re-working the buckets previously made.

Thank you for any input,

Dadre Traughber
4  DAM Stuff / DNG / Re: Using both Lightroom AND Expression Media2, vis-a-vis RAWs and DNGs on: April 19, 2011, 08:37:31 AM
Hi Robert,

Thank you for your prompt reply. Yes, I know keeping both DNGs and RAWs are my call, and I want to understand the best way to handle that situation. We dont' know the future, so I feel it safer to diversify!

The metadata in my RAW files comes from ImageIngestor Pro2 upon ingestion (contact/copyright) and Lightroom 3 (culling, cataloging, ratings, labels, keywords, develop settings). 

I thought the best way might be to convert to DNG after I’ve done the above work, and then catalog the DNGs in Expression Media2. I don’t have any intention of changing the metadata/writing to the files in ExpMedia2. I only want to use that for organization into sets and just getting an overview of my archive. I would not have to change the metadata in the file to do that, since the catalog keeps the information without writing back to file, right?

Somewhere along the way I read that one might keep just the higher star ratings in the RAW. Not sure if I would want to go this route since so much of my work is documentary. I do make virgin RAW DVDs upon ingestion.

I would want to keep the RAWs cataloged in Lightroom, and the DNGs cataloged in Expression Media2.

The question still remains: What are the pros and cons of keeping RAWs and DNGs, and cataloging the RAWs using Lightroom AND DNGs with Exp Media? Or some other arrangement?

 I know there are those of you out there that keep both and catalog both. I appreciate your input.

Any tips on how to manage backup of both, if done with two cataloging programs?

Thank you again,

Dadre
5  DAM Stuff / DNG / Using both Lightroom AND Expression Media2, vis-a-vis RAWs and DNGs on: April 18, 2011, 05:45:49 PM
Upon ingestion with Image Ingestor Pro2, I have added copyright/contact information. In Lightroom, I have been cataloging, rating, and keywording my images, and saving that back to the file.

Can Expression Media2 be used to catalog these same images without saving any more metadata to the file?

The image files are kept in proprietary RAW, and derivatives in Tiff. Would it be better to convert the RAW files to DNG, and then catalog the DNGs in Expression Media, while keeping a catalog of the RAWs in Lightroom?

The intention is to keep an archive in RAW, and in DNG, perhaps cataloged by Lightroom AND Expression Media2. Yes, I know this means it would take close to double the hard drive space, and perhaps double the trouble. Maybe this is like having cake and eating it too? This way, it seems that there would be advantages of having both RAWs and DNGs, available for whatever comes in the future without giving up anything.

From reading the forum and The DAM Book, I understand some of the pluses of converting to DNG. However, I don’t trust putting all my eggs in one DNG basket! All this would be contingent on whether Expression Media is compatible with my recent upgrade to Snow Leopard.

There is not room enough in the same Lightroom catalog to keep both DNGs and RAWs.

What are the pros and cons of keeping RAWs and DNGs, and cataloging the RAWs using Lightroom AND DNGs with Exp Media? Or some other arrangement?

Any tips on how to manage backup of both, if done with two cataloging programs?

Thank you,
Dadre Traughber
6  DAM Stuff / Hardware Discussions / Re: SMART Reporting and Preparing New Drives for Service on: January 19, 2011, 05:23:23 PM
Hi Barbara,

Thank you for the speedy reply. I'm going through the DPBestFlow videos step-by-step, and have just now arrived at the Data Validation page, where I see SmartReporter mentioned. Also saw the Volitans software online, but wanted to see if anyone here was using it. What great timing that you mentioned both.

So you took the leap with the new MacPro? How exciting! I hope you'll give us an update on what you decided on, what works, what is challenging, etc. Am very interested. Have been checking into a new MacPro (one i have now is aging, just like me) and looking for another 30" monitor, but read where some have had problems with the DVI dual-cables, and problems with the signal to the monitor. 

I wish you well on your new work horse and hope your transition goes smoothly.

Am also wondering about using DriveGenius for this and am checking into what it does. Anyone use Drive Genius?

Thanks again!

dadre
7  DAM Stuff / Hardware Discussions / Re: SMART Reporting and Preparing New Drives for Service on: January 19, 2011, 03:06:17 PM
Unless I missed it in the replies above, I did not see any recommendations for a good dependable SMART Utility for Mac, in reply to Barbara's question.

Anyone?

Thank you!

dadre traughber
8  Software Discussions / Lightroom / Re: Separating derviatives from originals using Lightroom 2 and external editor on: July 30, 2010, 07:42:08 PM
Thank you Bob for your reply. I do have Lightroom 3 but can't use it yet on the big computer as it's still running Tiger OS.

They say "when the student is ready, the guru appears...". Reckon I must have been ready, for I found the answer right under my nose in The DAM Book, pp 355-357. Had highlighted sentences before, but forgot to go back for reference at the time I needed it.

Yes, I do use buckets, and that was part of the concern. I like simple too! It's not simple getting to the simple state though, is it?

The beauty of having a problem is that it presents the opportunity to learn. Right after I posted this query I found the answer. Wish life was always that easy....

One thing I did notice from experimenting is that if "Stack with original" is checked, the original moves with the derivative file.

Thanks again! 

Dadre
9  Software Discussions / Lightroom / Separating derviatives from originals using Lightroom 2 and external editor on: July 30, 2010, 04:37:26 PM
When using Lightroom 2, I am making derivatives with Nik Software as a plug-in. In Lightroom 2, I choose Photos > Edit in > (then choose the external editor), then choose “Edit a Copy with Lightroom Adjustments” in the pop-up window.  Since I am editing RAW files (not converted to DNG), “Edit a Copy” or “Edit Original” is not an option. Then I choose, also in this window, “Stack with original”. After the editing process in Nik Software, the derivative tiff file is included in the original folder alongside the original in Lightroom.

To separate the derivatives from the original files, I filter using text = tif, select all, and drag and drop the derivatives into a derivatives folder (made in Lightroom) on another drive.  The “problem” is that the corresponding original file moves WITH the derivative file to the other drive. To keep this original file with the original folder, it has to be moved back from where it came. All the file moves are done within Lightroom.

I cannot find out why the original file travels with the derivative, or what consequence there is if the original is separate from the derivative file.

I’ve read through books by Martin Evening and Scott Kelby on Lightroom 2, and did a search in the DAM Forum, but can’t find out how to separate originals and derivatives in Lightroom 2, keeping the files separate, without moving the original file twice. This is not good!

Can someone please tell me why the original file moves with the corresponding derivative when the derivative is moved in Lightroom 2?  The originals and derivatives are together in one catalog but on different drives. It’s easy enough to find the original from a derivative since the file name is the same, but with a different extension. This situation makes me nervous--moving an original file twice because of the way Lightroom handles it (or the way I am mis-handling it).

Thank you in advance for any enlightenment on this situation.

Dadre Traughber

Mac Pro, 4  1TB internal drives, many external drives and a gazillion dvds for backup
10  DAM Stuff / Hardware Discussions / Re: Upgrading Externals on: October 05, 2009, 11:17:01 AM
Hi Andy,

Thanks for getting back to me with the update. The sound I was getting from the two new externals, particularly one of them, was very disturbing, as I've never heard this from any of my other hard drives. I have three of the same Hitachi 1TB for internal drives, and they're quiet as anything.

But one of these new externals (right after turning it on) particularly sounded unusual, not a comforting sound.  I could feel crunchy vibrations from touching the enclosure, and heard irregular grinding sounds . In any event, I shipped them back, and hope that they will be replaced, as I have no confidence if they return these exact same hard drives to me.

I know of no other viable options, after having read not-so-inspiring reviews of other types of singular external drives. Surely some hard drives have got to be better quality than others. Don't necessarily want to go the "cheap" route, as so often things that are "cheap" end up being very expensive in the long run.  Am open to suggestions.

Thanks again,
Dadre
11  DAM Stuff / Hardware Discussions / Re: Upgrading Externals on: September 29, 2009, 06:37:51 PM
Hi Andy,

How are those OWC Hitachi externals working out? Did you get the Mercury Elite-AL Pro enclosures with those externals?

I just got a couple of them with the 16 MB cache, and am hearing weird clicking noises with both. Have never heard this with any other hard drive. Do yours click?

Would be interested to see how they have been working out for you so far. Just curious.

Thanks, dadre
12  DAM Stuff / Migration Issues / Re: Where to put presentations--Powerpoint and Keynotes? on: September 17, 2009, 12:15:37 PM
Thanks, Peter, for your reply. Good to know that you don't catalog them. I'll just keep the presentations most used in the Working folder, and the rest will find a home elsewhere, but not in the DAM flow. That'll keep things more simple.

Going through The DAM Book is a great ongoing learning experience. Thank you again. And again.

Best,

Dadre
13  DAM Stuff / Migration Issues / Re: Where to put presentations--Powerpoint and Keynotes? on: September 14, 2009, 09:59:23 AM
Sorry I didn't mention this in the previous post, but hats off and accolades to Peter for the brilliant "The DAM Book" and the forum.  It's the greatest antidote to floundering with assets in the digital photography world. Now we have no excuse.

A fellow flounderer, but reforming....

Dadre
14  DAM Stuff / Migration Issues / Re: Where to put presentations--Powerpoint and Keynotes? on: September 14, 2009, 09:51:26 AM
Yes, that makes sense.

Looks like I may just keep these slide presentations in another area. One less thing to clutter the DAM flow.

By the way, things are coming along with the migration, thanks to all the help from the DAM forum and folks like you. It has been not unlike trying to solve a difficult Sudoku puzzle. Everything has got to line up in every which way, nothing missing, all in order.

It's getting there. But there's always room for more mistakes and challenges.

Thanks again for your help. It's greatly appreciated.

Dadre
15  DAM Stuff / Migration Issues / Re: Where to put presentations--Powerpoint and Keynotes? on: September 14, 2009, 09:22:36 AM
Thank you, John, for your insight. I wanted to see where folks far more experienced than I would handle these. Your answer framed it in a better way.

Just couldn't take the leap of imagination to see where they'd best fit. Most are documentary, some are ongoing projects for educational purposes, and are fundamental.
Looks like it's basically my call. Since I'm trying to follow the DAM practice that Peter has organized, I needed to get those ducks in a row too.

Thanks again,

Dadre
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