I am looking to folow the principles that peter has laid out in his DAM good book, so not only do I have to worry about new shoots for which II seams to be ideal. Secondly I need to migraate my current structure to use the buckets which I see as invaluable and also to rename my files. This is why I was asking the questions I did. Ideally I want to migrate my currrent structure and rename all the files in the process. II seamed a good place to start looking at how to achieve this.  


I have tried the above, renamed the rws files to xmp and moved them into the same directory as the raw files, II then succesful moves and renames them. I now have a possible solution to move all of my current archieve. Well I will have to write some batch scripts to move and rename files.

The problem with the rws files is that they are binary so I am going to have to rely on the tool that adobe will supply to migrate the settings contained in the rws file into lightroom.

I am aware of the limitations of using lightroom as Peter has pointed out in one of his posts. But I will not be using multiple machines so on of the problems goes away at the moment. Also as a registered user of Raw Shooter I will get a free upgrade to lightroom. So I am prepared to live with its short comings for the time being. The idea of being able to use a single tool to edit & catalog photos is very appealing, and I expect there will be comprimises at the moment, hopefully I will be able to find out tomorrow. But as you say this area of the software industry is quite volatile, the smaller companies are being taken over and the major players are having to respond to each other. Who knows where it will be in a few years time.

Niall

its nice to know he handles xmp, especially as I about to start using lightroom hopefully tomorrow  when it is released.

Niall

As dawnne stated they are from rawshooter, they are similar to xmp files except they are not in a open format. So they contain rating information and details on how to develop the photo.

It looks like I will need to find another way to move these files. Although by the sounds of it, if I change the modification date back they would then move into the correct directory. I assume that the 00001,00002 was because the macro needed modifying to use the correct proportion of the file name.

Thanks

Niall

I have just run the ingestion again here are the settings and what happened.

moving rws files

Folder Macro
{@datetime,1,4}/{@datetime,5,2}/{@datetime,1,4}-{@datetime,5,2}-{@datetime,7,2}/.RWSettings
Image Macro
{@prefix,1,-1,_}{@datetime,3,2}{@datetime,5,4}_{@filename,-4}

Input Directory

2007\01\070121\Raw\.RWSetings\CRW_4501.CRW.rws
2007\01\070121\Raw\.RWSetings\CRW_4502.CRW.rws


Renamed to
2007-01-24\.RWSettings\NJH_070124_.CRW.rws
2007-01-24\.RWSettings\NJH_070124_.CRW_00001.rws
2007-01-24\.RWSettings\NJH_070124_.CRW_00002.rws
2007-01-24\.RWSettings\NJH_070124_.CRW_00003.rws

Renamed to
2007-01-25\.RWSettings\NJH_070125_.CRW.rws
2007-01-25\.RWSettings\NJH_070125_.CRW_00001.rws
2007-01-25\.RWSettings\NJH_070125_.CRW_00002.rws

I am assuming I need to change the macro so that the number of the photo remains, which is causing the 00001 etc.
Secondly the date they are being given I assume is the date they were created?

These files are side car files for the crw files and they need to be the same. Is there any way I will be able to achieve this with ImageIngester. They are always in a directory which is correctly dated.

The CRW & THM files move correctly and are renamed according to the macro patterns.

For this to work for me I need to be able to move the rws files into a subdirectory below the crw files, and they need to have the same name.

Thanks

Niall

To move the rws sidecar files I used the following macro to move them into the correct directory

{@datetime,1,4}/{@datetime,5,2}/{@datetime,1,4}-{@datetime,5,2}-{@datetime,7,2}/.RWSettings

For all the rest I used standard patterns.

On the initial ingest I excluded rws files and removed the .RWSettings from the above (It was a standard then)
Then I added the string as above and selected only rws files.

Niall

No problem, I am still at work  , when I get home I will get the details.

Niall

I will find them out when I get home, tonight I am at work tonight.


I assume from your question I will be able to sort the names out, and move the files in 2 goes, the first to move the crw, thm files, then a subsequent ingest to move the rws files.

Niall

I have just had a look at what happens and its quite interesting, my initial file structure was

2007\01\070121\Raw\CRW_4501.CRW
2007\01\070121\Raw\CRW_4501.THM
2007\01\070121\Raw\.RWSetings\CRW_4501.CRW.rws

In My backup directory I end up with
2007\01\2007-01-21\CRW_4501.CRW
2007\01\2007-01-21\CRW_4501.THM
2007\01\2007-01-21\CRW_4501_00001.CRW
2007\01\2007-01-21\CRW_4501_00001.THM

In My working directory I end up with
2007\01\2007-01-21\CRW_4501_00001.CRW
2007\01\2007-01-21\CRW_4501_00001.THM

The rws files end in in backup directories depending upon the date they were created but with there name changed to
NJH_070124_.CRW_00001.rws

By ignoring rws files the ingestion is more what I expected (I loose the 00001 files) except now I would need a manual job to move the rws files and also to rename them. I am not sure how I am going to move and rename the files and keep all the files intact.

Niall

does it know about the crw, thm relationship and as such would it rename the thm files?

Niall

Thanks for your reply, I assume that when II moves the files it will also rename them, I will have to have a try and see what happens when I select a directory of files to move. I need to make sure I keep the rawshooter sidecar file as I am going to move to lightroom for my raw converter and it is supposed to use these files.

Hopefully I will get time over the weekend to try II.

It would be nice to control where different file types go.  But once I have reorganised my files its not such a problem as I shoot raw 99% of the time.

I assume then to get II involved in the buckets for the initial photo's it is a manual job, once the directory hits the size I just need to change the path the files are downloaded to.

Thanks again

Niall

Hi,


I am looking to get my photographs organised and I have read Peters book and will follow the principles he  discusses there. I am looking at using image ingester to download my pictures. I have a few questions regarding the use of image ingester.

Does image ingester support the buckets for the archive and working directories?

Currently I have a lot of my photo's on my hard drive, from what I can see II will move these files to my new directory structure. Am I corect.

I also assume that the thm sidecar files will be moved along with the crw files.

In the past I used rawshooter, which also has sidecar files can I get II to move these files or will this be a manual job?

Currently when I download files i place my raw files in a raw directory and my jpgs (original  files) in another directory at the same level, will II do this?

Thanks

Niall