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1  Software Discussions / Media Pro & Expression Media / Re: iView vs Em2 on: July 17, 2010, 01:59:19 AM
No reason to stay with iView MediaPro. The main complaint for xMedia 2 is that it is not that far removed from iVMP, otherwise it offers several improvements, not ÷east of which is speed.
2  Software Discussions / Media Pro & Expression Media / Re: Phase One buys Expression Media - updated on: May 28, 2010, 12:25:32 AM
It's not just PDFs [make for easily transferable slide shows] or text documents [which I don't catalogue], it is graphical design formats that should be of interest to photographers, like AI, EPS, QT [slide shows again], SWF ...

Let's see what Phase One themselves will say about future development, we've been burnt at least once over MediaPro/xMedia; and for the time being the program is far behind in development and marketing.
3  Software Discussions / Media Pro & Expression Media / Re: Future of Expression Media on: February 13, 2010, 02:18:47 AM
Quick follow-up to my keywording post above: Dan and several other over at IDI's own forums pointed me to the Label Assignment panel, which i mentioned in my previous post. It straightened out my difficulties as it is rather quick - not lamer than xMedia with a large keyword list - and adds some very helpful features like sets.
4  Software Discussions / Media Pro & Expression Media / Re: Future of Expression Media on: February 06, 2010, 03:20:48 AM
I know that Hert is following this, the main developer of IDI, so, he will hopefully chime in with his description of the ideal keywording process in his program. Actually this should probably be split off and put over into the IDI board in this forum. Let me also say that I have been using IDI as my secondary database for specific features until a few weeks ago.

Background to my keywording woes:

- 3.2 GHz P4, 2 GB RAM, Windows XP Home, SP2, fully patched
- about 16,000 photos in catalogue, most of them keyworded with xMedia, GeoSetter, and Breeze Downloader Pro
- extended use of David Rieck's Controlled Vocabulary

xMedia, as you may remember, comes from the Macintosh platform, and is known for its really, really good, easy to use UI. As is often the case with Mac-developed applications they are quick and easy to use but in lieu of flexibility; IDI is a lot more flexible than xMedia, automatically making the UI a bit daunting. Hert's program uses several elements to show or change keywords - there's the Catalog Assignment panel [switched from Catalog Exporer], the Image Details dialogue, and a Label Assignment dialogue, which I only became aware of two days ago, when asking about a minor stumbling block I hit during keywording.

At first the Catalog Assignment panel seems to be ideal to quickly assign keywords, it supports drag and drop, quick assign of a block of keywords [several ways!], keyword hierarchies. Unfortunately this is only useful if you start from blank, have only a couple dozen keywords, or have a highly stratified, normalised list of keywords; best would be a fully controlled vocab with your two main languages in one hierarchy [English plus your native language or most useful secondary language in one set, i.e. 'Graugan' and 'greylag goose' under 'Anser anser']. You can search for keywords, which is very helpful for long lists - bear in mind that I several ten thousand of them -, but this is very slow on my computer; SQL is not particularly known for speed.

For the time being - no normalised keyword list, my own keywords and the CVK separate, photographing landscape, reportage, city/architecture, and animals/nature, that is quite varied subjects - I prefer to enter keywords the way I've been accustomed to through xMedia. Notice the operative here: 'accustomed to'. Which doesn't work in Image Detail, for good reasons as Hert explained to me [though I don't quite understand why other fields in that same dialogue work]. I haven't found time, yet, to explore the Label Assignment dialogue, which might work just the way I like it.

Bottom line:
Keywording in IDI is not just different from xMedia, it's harder when switching programs, as IDI is more flexible and slower. Learning IDI needs a little time, you will be a little frustrated if you mix time-important tasks [clients waiting] with getting to grips with IDI.




PS: Be sure there's a lot of features easily making you smile happily, counterbalancing above mentioned aspects. Creating watermarks, for instance, parametric image processing via recipes, versioning [much better than xMedia], direct upload to several on-line networks [incl. Flickr and Facebook], support for Kodak's old PCD format [which xMedia incomprehensible lost between v1 and v2], and a lot more.
5  Software Discussions / Media Pro & Expression Media / Re: Future of Expression Media on: January 30, 2010, 02:34:16 AM
For all practical purposes xMedia is dead - for some time now. How long ago they last did anything with/for it, 1 1/2 year? And that would be for a service pack bringing fixes for bugs that shouldn't have been there in the first place. Current xMedia 2 SP2 is still nothing more than iView Media Pro 3 with some minor [only partially working] additions.

Sad to say my guarded optimism has proven wrong, the naysayers were right: MS Killed the DAM Star.

The qualifier 'cross-platform' - which has never been a priority for me - doesn't really cut it any more. There may be two or three handful of photographers using a Windows- and a Mac-based system concurrently but the majority of users will have only one. Even if not, AFAIUI, Macs have no problem running Windows programs. And with all my personal misgivings about Lightroom, i.e. it being a souped up RAW converter not a DAM with RAW editing, it surely serves a lot of colleagues quite well. Over the course of the last few weeks I've exchanged xMedia as my primary photo hub with IDimager; it has niggles, like xMedia and every other software has, but it has a lot to offer xMedia has not. Now, if only keywording was as quick and easy as xMedia's ...
6  Software Discussions / Media Pro & Expression Media / Re: Future of Expression Media on: December 01, 2009, 01:20:59 AM
Which OS?
7  Software Discussions / Media Pro & Expression Media / Re: Future of Expression Media on: November 29, 2009, 01:27:46 AM
Dan, the point of CM is to have pictures look the same in every step of the work-flow, not to get good-loking prints. Proofs are a remnant of printing days before computers, especially designed to show the client how the printed matter will look like. Hence my reluctance to take soft proofs or even Cibachrome proofs or desktop printer proofing serious - as long as it is not the same settings for the same machine with the same inks on the same paper proofs are only approximate. If it is only me, always on the same computer with the same monitor with the same printer, inks and paper for output calibration and profiling is unnecessary [though convenient], since CM is done by my brain and experience.

For the time being it looks like anybody interested in a CM'ed work-flow cannot use xMedia. And when I write 'for the time being' I mean 'for the foreseeable future' as my impression is that Expression Media is dead like the Dodo.
8  General / General Discussion / Re: Increase of "Recent Posts" on: October 17, 2009, 12:58:24 AM
John, the Mark as Read button doesn't work correctly; I just used it but it only marked as read those boards I had been visiting just prior to hitting it.
9  Software Discussions / Media Pro & Expression Media / Re: Future of Expression Media on: October 09, 2009, 02:51:49 PM
If only to poke MS PR ...

There's more disheartening symptoms of MS having changed their stance towards image handling. for one, Mark Hamburg, as I just noticed today, is back with Adobe since this summer. My pet peeve, sync'ing Web forum with Usenet group, has still not been addressed; the support blog's last entry is dated 27th April [by good soul Anita Oakley]. Marketing for xMedia has all but ceased, and as long as nobody thinks 'surprise, surprise' is a good marketing strategy I don't see a new version of the program around the corner.

Probably time to say good-bye. We'll always have Paris ...
10  Software Discussions / Media Pro & Expression Media / Re: From GPS data to IPCT and Keywords on: September 30, 2009, 11:58:42 PM
Check the Data Preferences under Settings, third block from the top, should explain itself [I've unchecked Country Code, I think because GS uses two-character while all other progs I use prefer three-character].

Script questions are best directed at John Beardsworth, who provides some very useful scripts on his Web site. One of them seems to be what you look for.
11  Software Discussions / Media Pro & Expression Media / Re: From GPS data to IPCT and Keywords on: September 30, 2009, 12:14:01 AM
How did you get them there, and where exactly are they now?

Using GeoSetter the location fields are filled in and the values for them are written into the keywords area of xMedia. If only the location fields are filled you will need a script to read the values and write them to teh keyword area.
12  Software Discussions / Media Pro & Expression Media / Re: From GPS data to IPCT and Keywords on: September 16, 2009, 12:42:17 AM
As for GeoSetter. If I understand you correctly you should just open the 'Change metadata' dialogue, which you find by selecting the images you need and then click on the 6th button from the left in the toolbar. Fill in the appropriate fields, click 'Set Current Values For All Selected Images ...' and a window will open to let you check which data are written to the files selected.

Even simpler, but with a catch [date and time is a GPS datum!], select the image with the coordinates you want to apply to several files, click on the red balloon button with an arrow to the right. Now select the files you want to put these data into and click the red balloon with the arrow to the left. Easy to remember on my system, where the map resides on the rioght monitor and the thumbnail browser on the left.

With the help of an on-line translation tool [and some typing for non-text text] this short article on GeoSetter might help you.


I have my two Nikon, dSLRs, D2x and D200, both outfitted permanently with Custom Idea's GeoPic II. The GeoPic is set up such that it will only get satellite data when the camera is ready to shoot [it's set to green]. The rest is outlined in my previous post. There's another article in German on GPS hardware for Nikon cameras.
13  Software Discussions / Media Pro & Expression Media / Re: From GPS data to IPCT and Keywords on: September 14, 2009, 11:40:57 PM
I use GeoSetter for a semi-automatic way. GeoPic II - the GPS receiver from Custom Idea - puts the geocoordinates into my files when shooting. I then download the files to my comp, import them into xMedia, use the light table view to cull. When that is done, I select one photo and sent it to GeoSetter, which I defined as a Helper Application. This takes me to the folder containing the file, where I can then

a) correct any wrong coordinates [from time to time I get a 0┬░/0┬░],
b) put in missing coordinates,
c) get floor names for IPTC fields.

When that is done and saved to the files, I go back to xMedia, <Ctrl>+b to re-import EXIF, <Ctrl>+<Alt>+b to import the new IPTC data [make sure to 'merge, prefer catalogue'].

GeoSetter is Windows-only donation-ware.




[Edit]
Deleted my preferred keyboard key indicator for 'b' since it was interpreted as HTML.
14  Software Discussions / idImager / Re: Comparison of IDimager v4 to EM2 on: September 01, 2009, 10:54:07 AM
Using Opera, I created a search box for the toolbar from: http://www.acronymfinder.com/

Oh, and the linguist in me tells me to be a little pedantic on 'acronym', neither MBWIA nor d'n'd are such, they are just abbreviations. An acronym is an abbrev formed from several words by using single letters from each [usually the first one, but let's not get too pedantic], which is then spoken like a word, hence '-nym' = name. NATO is the standard example.
15  Software Discussions / idImager / Re: Comparison of IDimager v4 to EM2 on: August 31, 2009, 11:06:00 PM
A best I can tell, what you are describing is that when entering a keyowrd hierarchy, all nodes are added as separate keywords, even if an identical item is already there.  Is that it?

Exactly.

d'n'd has - outside of role player communities - always been a standard abbrev for drag-and-drop. Sorry, I tend to shorten words, phrases, even sentences a lot on days I've a lot to say on-line.
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