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16  DAM Stuff / Loss and Recovery / Re: Recovering from a RAID crash - which drive failed? on: February 07, 2007, 03:30:50 PM
Hi Stephen,

This is a risky suggestion as I don't have Raid 0/1 (is one mirroring and the other striping?). You may try rebooting with the power uplugged to each drive in turn to see if that shows up anything. Cool features are good but only if they work.

Regards,

David
17  General / General Discussion / Re: Buckets, achiving, and DNG's changing on: February 04, 2007, 02:59:37 AM
Hi,

When something goes into my archive it's because I don't expect it to change. Subsequent modifications would result in a derivative file. DNG's in the archive can change after I've burnt to DVD but that's ok. I plan on having another backup to disk to handle that.

David
18  Software Discussions / Lightroom / Re: Lightroom Musings on: February 03, 2007, 04:49:36 PM
Dan,
By the way, can you tell me how on this forum to give an inserted hyperlink a name.  Thanks.

Code:
[url=http://thedambook.com]The Dam Book website[/url]

gives The Dam Book website

David
19  Software Discussions / iView MediaPro / Filetweak on: February 02, 2007, 09:44:19 PM
http://www.febooti.com/products/filetweak/ lets me change the created and modified date of the file.
20  Software Discussions / iView MediaPro / Re: Help required for understanding sort order on: February 02, 2007, 09:20:03 PM
I believe Created does include time.

I name my P&S video files the same as my stills, so they are roughly in order, at least for that camera.  They don't easily slide into order when comingled with images shot with my DSLR.

Do you rename the video files with a date component?

Peter

Hi Peter,

See my comment in the previous reply for how I name my video files. yyyymmdd hh:mm:ss for video differs from yyyymmdd_nnnn_DWB for stills. Bringing all this data together can highlight problems in either approach  Grin

I may have been ambigious in my earlier comments. Does the Date Created annotation contain a time component. I cannot see that it does. This differs from the IPTC spec from what I can tell. It may be I have the format wrong.

David
21  Software Discussions / iView MediaPro / Re: Help required for understanding sort order on: February 02, 2007, 09:17:23 PM
Thanks Ian. Let me help you if I can by expanding with what I know.

I've been looking at the data you can get out of iView to try and do some XSL on it to get usable CSV and Excel files.  There's a standard format for data items made up of date and time and guess what? Yep, iView doesn't follow it! While that's a minor issue for my XSL it did lead me look at all the dates within iView, including Capture Date.

This may or may not actually be the case. I spent days trying to get iMatch to put information into the IPTC date and time created fields. It wasn't the software which was acting perfectly. Rather the problem was the underlying Regional date and time setting for windows. I had to change these to get the format right.

From looking at a selection of my images the capture date is when the image was taken, limited to the accuracy of the clock in your camera.  The date created field is when the file is created on a computer.  The modified date is updated when the file is changed, usually when the meta-data is changed, or for DNG's when the preview JPG is updated.

You can see these dates in the Info panel in iView, with the Capture Date being in the Photo EXIF section.

Yes, and there is Date Created annotation field also which appears in the info panel. The Date Finder choses an explicitly set Date Created value. If not present the EXIF date created. If not present the File creation date.

I think that you may need to be very careful using what iView considers to be the Created date in your workflow as this won’t be the same as the capture date.

Agreed to a point. Most of the time it is and I back that up by setting the Date Created annotation explicitly.

I don't know what will happen for videos, but expect it to be the same.

Digital video downloaded off tape to AVI using SCLive (www.scenalyzer.com) has EXIF information which matches the date from the camera. Each take or clip is split at the start/stop point and helps me to identify the correct sequencing of video if needed. Because the timestamp is recorded on the tape as well, if a clip should become damaged and this has happened once or twice due to DVD failure, then I can go directly to the correct point in the tape and recapture it to AVI.

At the moment I'm storing the date and time in yyyymmdd hh:mm:ss format in the title.

David
22  Software Discussions / iView MediaPro / Re: Help required for understanding sort order on: February 02, 2007, 03:58:02 PM
Thinking out loud as I'm wont to do.

The main fear I have is losing the sequencing of the video clips. For those coming from the digital camera the current filename tells me where on the tape the original clip is. If I store the original name in the title for video clips then I at least have that sequencing information. That may do.

David
23  Software Discussions / iView MediaPro / Re: Help required for understanding sort order on: February 02, 2007, 01:24:32 PM
Thanks Peter,

That confirms what I've noticed.

Not sure if modified is going to work. Newer digital video is ok, older video has the wrong value. If everything had an exif date that could be changed/corrected it would be easy.

I wonder if it's worth create a custom field named "strict sequence" and a small script to iterate through the photos of a day an set the value incrementally. That would work for the day, but not for the month, where the sequence would be larger, nor for the year.

More thinking to do I guess. Date Created doesn't take a time option does it?

David
24  Software Discussions / iView MediaPro / Help required for understanding sort order on: February 02, 2007, 03:34:21 AM
Hi All,

Am I correct in understanding that if you select a grouping (date, location, category set etc.) then the thumbnail view sorts by default into the order that you drag the files (like a light table) and that only by applying a sort option from the menu does it re-order. Then, when you reselect (say the next day) it's back in the manually sorted order again?

My brain's fried at the end of the week and I keep confusing myself around the issue. I'd like to be able to splice photos and video avi's in the right order. Can't use EXIF date as the video doesn't have it, nor can I use Date Capture because I can't specify a time.

Thanks,

David
25  DAM Stuff / Naming Issues / Re: Date first or name first? on: January 28, 2007, 06:55:42 PM
Thanks Peter.

We're a long way from being professional. My main interest in photography is to provide a record of my family's history. DWB = David and Wendy Buchan by the way.

David
26  DAM Stuff / Naming Issues / Date first or name first? on: January 28, 2007, 03:51:35 AM
After working through 2.5 DVD's of photos I've decided to change my naming convention. What worked well for digital cameras doesn't integrate so well as I move back into the legacy collection of scans and even video clips.

The question is, "Does it matter?". Forgive me if I think aloud here. It helps to have a conversation about it, even if it ends up just being me.

I've been naming using three initials, date and then sequence number. So photos from myself and my wife are DWB_20070128_1485.ext or whatever the camera is up to. Integrating photos from other family members in the collection provides filenames such as RCC_20070128_3722.ext. In a file name order these don't line up in date order because the name is sorted first. DWB comes before RCC no matter what the date.

The alternative is to switch things around and have 20070128_1485_DCB.ext and 20070128_3722_RCC.ext. This will put things in date order. Not minute or hour order. For that I need to reorganise and then resequence. This is the two cameras problem mentioned in Peter's book and elsewhere on the forums. A problem with resequencing is that I may get the photos later. Nowadays it doesn't matter so much (again thinking aloud) because each digital camera will have a datestamp and so I can sort within iView on the capture date (whew! got that one sorted).

My video clips are currently named clip_yyyymmdd_hhmmss.ext. These won't sort as well by filename, and older clips don't have exif file data in them. Newer clips do, but I'm not yet sure if iView reads it (most apps don't expect to see it in the avi file). If I rename these to 20070128_3722_DCB.avi I have the option to sequence them with the photos to give a truer order of the day.

What it comes down to is the filename sequence reflecting the time sequence. Irrespective of what the values actually are, a later shot should follow an earlier shot and vice-versa. EXIF is a boon and solves the problem but not for legacy data. I believe I've been hanging onto the 4-digit camera sequence number as too important. Though Peter and others suggest searching on the sequence number I never have, so for me it doesn't make as much sense to have them completely unique.

Next steps:
1. Rename all the files I've just renamed to be in yyyymmdd_nnnn_USR.ext order. Worth doing to give me consistency from the start.
2. Keep cataloging.

Thanks for listening,

David
27  General / Photo Blogs / Re: Shameless Self Promotion: Pixblog on: January 28, 2007, 02:12:30 AM
Hi Shawn,

Some excellent photos there. Thanks for sharing.

Might I suggest that you either have fewer photos on the front page or inform the browser via width and height attributes what the size of the photos were. Each time I read the text it was bumped downwards as the earlier photos came online.

Cheers,

David
28  DAM Stuff / Backup Strategies and Tools / Re: bucket numbering: accounting for deep previous archive on: January 27, 2007, 06:57:17 PM
and thanks for the mantra David-maybe Peter should add it to the Seminar info-or maybe he did and it got by me.

I'm working from memory. It's possible that's just what I read into it. Try chapter 3.

David
29  Software Discussions / iView MediaPro / Re: Need tips for handling derived files in iVMP on: January 27, 2007, 05:15:22 PM
Derek,

I'd love to hear the result of your latest test when you're done. What worked and what didn't?

David
30  General / General Discussion / Re: Photo books on: January 27, 2007, 05:14:00 PM
Hi John,

I can second Momento. Excellent quaility, simple to use software and they made the Christmas delivery as promised.

David
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